Talk:Fresh Meat/@comment-24784093-20150110200957/@comment-26106320-20150110212029

^dont forget girls are the audience they are aiming for in first place. This show is supposed to strengthen girls (maybe even girls reputation). There is no need for boys, girls are there own persons and can be as interesting and fighting against "evil" as boys do. However I agree, most of the male characters are one dimensional. But look at the liars, most of the time they are stereotypical as well, only hanna and spencer seem to have edgy moments, also emily shows finally (again) after 3 season of stagnation character development (what people might call her being out of character). The only complex characters were (assumed-to-be-dead) Alison and Mona. Alison was complex by concept (got boring when she returned imo) and Mona had the biggest character development of the whole show (dumb-A-A-TeamLiars-MikesGF-victim) Most other girls on the show seem to bee complex just bc of their rare and shady appearances  such as Jenna, Cece, and so was Shana. Overall this show doesnt have many 3-dimensional characters at all. And the role of the guys in this show is pretty clear. THEY are boyfriends of the liars, its not the other way around. So either boyfriends or antagonists (garret until his death, wilden, holden(used to be)). Dont get me wrong, I love the whole Girls can do their own thing premise of the show, but the one-sided potrayal of them, and sometimes they really act like retards, doesnt help for emancipation sometimes lmfao.