Talk:Oh, What Hard Luck Stories They All Hand Me/@comment-25584522-20150201002258/@comment-25937133-20150201012910

Yes, but you also said right afterward that "hurt is defined by the victim." Thus, if the victim did not define it as hurt, there was no violence (according to this theory). My point being that many victims do not see or define hurt/violence for what it is simply because they do not know any better.

I don't mean anything personally, I have no idea what each poster did/did not say about Marlene. I just think that what has historically been some joking in good humor about Marlene sometimes gets out of hand. Like when twenty or so people jump in on one thread with botox comments that seem to be intended to insult and hurt rather than create humor. Some of it is funny and very obviously done in good humor. A lot of it seemed to be people jumping on the bandwagon to make themselves feel better by hurling insults. When the good humored jab becomes the norm in terms of how we refer to someone, I would say we have a problem. But that's just my subjective opinion.