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  • Hey guys,

    I run the tumblr wrenischarles.tumblr.com and the instagram @wrenischarles. I've recently made an updated theory on why I think Wren is Charles and would appreciate it if you all had a read if you are a fan of Wren theories, or general PLL theories!

    Heres the link to my old theory: http://wrenischarles.tumblr.com/post/115052955525/why-i-think-wren-kingston-is-charles-dilaurentis

    and the link to my updated theory: http://wrenischarles.tumblr.com/post/122345978960/wren-is-charles-updated-theory

    Hope you enjoy!

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    • i really liked your theory and the way you wrote it, good job. But there ar few questions and some parts i dont agree.

      1. I think bethany shuold connect in an other way. i belive in the family thing. i dont say she is mrs. Ds dauughter but she has/ghad something to do with the family not only the friensdship with charles.

      2. If Wren  is Charles (thereis a really big IF) and he was adopted by dr. palmer he couldnt inherit his illness because he wasnt his real dad.

      3. I agree that sara is not sara but actually bethany

      4. About melissa i more likely ti think that she is the black widow. i dont know where this feeling comes from but im sure about this.

      5. aaand i really dont want wren to be A. that yould be so sad and i will be dissapointed i love wren...

      Thanks for your theory 

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    • Thanks for your feedback!

      Mental health conditions can be passed on through adoptive parents, this is something I studied in psychology, however this is not relevant to my theory. Wren/Charles was obviously already insane before he was adopted. When Wren speaks about his dad being in the "nut house" this may not be referring to a typical mental disorder, but something like dementia instead. Dr Palmer is at a care home after all...

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    • doesnt dementia mean that when you are old ( i think older than 65) and forget things easily and become 'stupid'. ( tell me if not, im not a doctor)

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    • Dementia typically occurs at old age. BUT dementia can occur at any age. Huntingtons disease for example is a type of neurological disease that is genetic, symptoms appear around the age of 40-50. You would be put in a mental home if no family could support you because you develop severe mental decline. (I have a neuroscience degree)

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    • First: I love your accounts! And I'm a huge fan of Wren is Charles theories, to me he is the only one that makes sense, if they don't introduce a completely new character (which I don't hope)

      I got two points I don't really agree with:

      1. Melissa: I don't think she was the one writing the note "He's going to kill me -M". For me there is no doubt that it was from Mona, since it was in her closet (well Alis but Mona was the one sleeping in there), she was afraid of him and he kept her in this hole. He definitely planned to get rid of Mona.

      2. Dr. Palmer: First, I didn't know he is British, where do we get this information? Also I don't think he is the father that Wren is talking about. In episode 3x02 Wren says about his father, "He checked out of my life when I was ten, traded our family room for the chaos inside his head." Charles was with the DiLaurentis until he was about 7-8 I would assume (since Ali was one year old), then he stayed at Radley until he was 16. So this doesn't really fit together. 

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    • Hey, thanks for your message!

      Dr Palmer being British isn't something we have ever been told, he just sounds it! I researched the actor and he is Australian, so this makes me think he is actually putting the accent on... for a reason!

      That's a good point about Wren saying that... I hadn't thought about it much.. Maybe this is when Dr Palmer started to lose his mind, hence why Wren said he "checked out". 

      Even if he is not his father, I do think there is a connection between these two characters. The mental illness, the accent, the Radley connection.. it's all a really jagged puzzle that somehow fits.

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    • I now fully support the idea of Wren being Charles and A

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    • I believe Wren is some how connected to the Montgomery family

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    • ^ I still think Scott (Arias uncle) could be Charles/Wrens father. We don't exactly know when Kenneth and Jessica got together, maybe she was with Scott first, but he left her back pregnant and after that she met Kenneth. Or she simply had another affair, nothing new for her as we know.

      Plus Scott could be "Mr. Young" aka Bethanys father, but I don't think Jessica is her mother, that would just be too much.

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    • Guys I saw this and at first I didnt believe it but then again it could be legit?? W
      Pretty little liars spoilers

      apparently these are season 6 spoilers??

      hat do you all think of this?
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    • I love this theory!

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    • ^^ Well some of them already turned out to be true, some turned out to be wrong..

      but some are completely bs, I mean "Shana and Maya were sisters" SERIOUSLY?! 

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    • Maya and Shana are sisters?! That has absolutely no relevance to the storyline AT alll

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    • "Charles was only a cheap excuse to reveal who A is" - agreed. This supports most of our "Charles is dead" theory.

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    • 1975xgirls wrote:
      Hey, thanks for your message!

      Dr Palmer being British isn't something we have ever been told, he just sounds it! I researched the actor and he is Australian, so this makes me think he is actually putting the accent on... for a reason!

      That's a good point about Wren saying that... I hadn't thought about it much.. Maybe this is when Dr Palmer started to lose his mind, hence why Wren said he "checked out". 

      Even if he is not his father, I do think there is a connection between these two characters. The mental illness, the accent, the Radley connection.. it's all a really jagged puzzle that somehow fits.

      Maybe Wren was refering to Mr. D when he said he checked out of his life. Maybe after Wren/Charles was sent to Radley Mr. D visited him but eventually stopped going around the time he was 10! Also, maybe Mrs. D asked Dr. Palmer to send Charles to England (maybe after Charles killed Marion?) to hide him from Mr. D. So they made up the death and I'm sure Dr. Palmer signed the death certificate. Maybe Dr. Palmer really liked Charles and send him to live with some of his relatives in England. I think Dr. Palmer stayed because he was Marion's doctor so I don't think he went back to England. 

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    • ^ That actually would make sense. But I don't think Charles was the one killing Marion. It's just a feeling, but I think Jessica is involved in the death of Marion.

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    • -JasonsGirl wrote:
      ^ That actually would make sense. But I don't think Charles was the one killing Marion. It's just a feeling, but I think Jessica is involved in the death of Marion.

      Maybe Charles saw Jessica killing Marion and she wanted him far so he wouldn't tell anybody. I was also thinking that maybe Dr. Palmer could be Bethany's dad and that's why Jessica had an affair with him so he could cover Marion's death for her...

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    • Since Bethany Young is from Bryn Mawr in Montgomery County, it occurred to me that Bethany is related to the Montgomery family, and I think I know how she is related to them, I looked at the initials of Bryn Mawr and the initials are B.M., the only person I know that has these initials is Byron Montgomery. Bethany Young could in fact be Aria's fraternal twin sister!😱

      In season 3 episode 2, I watched a deleted scene with a conversation between Aria and her dad. Her dad asked how she got home, and Aria replied "Wren drove me home" and then we get a shot of Byron with a look of familiarity on his face, and he remembered that Wren is his brother Scott's son. Byron then went downstairs and told Ella that Wren drove Aria home, and Ella asked "Who's Wren?" *Byron sighed* and then he said "Wren is Scott's son." And I also find it quite strange that whenever Wren comes to town Harold Crane comes back as well. Maybe because he wants to be closer to his son and the rest of his family. Harold Crane is Scott Montgomery and he is Wren's real dad. And mainly Wren is Aria's cousin.😱

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    • I´ve found this video a few days ago... the therie is not mine but I think it´s brilliant.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2mLd9U9b8Q&feature=youtu.be

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